That's one way to think about it, but you're also this very complex growing organism. And so, I think there's this issue of the segmentation, and again, just all those social cultural reasons for that. And you optimize complicated systems. And so, play with them, but really be careful about the one you hang your hat on. It also has to do with will, and drive, and creativity, and a lot of other things. And so, I'm saying not engage fully with the culture, but be mindful that you can have junk food for your mind you can have junk food for your body. Which requires a lot of intelligence. So that's kind of the brief history of where this instrument came from. Whatever, and then they would think about the lateral application of principles, one domain to other domains so there was of course no just met memory, because everything actually made sense and crossing inter-referenced. I think advertisement is great one. I think we're in uncharted territory in most of these fields. He do's it as a slip in his book. So, there's a uniqueness factor, and there is a kind of, where does the puzzle piece fit factor? And we might get to follow up on those. So it's not that it's out of touch with reality, it's an added supervening on reality in a way that's not revealing as much as we could. So called, or supposedly detect intelligence for a very long time. And so, you're looking at literally the generation of monoculture of the mind. And just take them with a grain of salt. But specifically, you define problem solving, and problem finding as fundamentally different kinds of problems. Zachary Stein: That's great. And it's worse than not knowing what's going on. California Privacy Notice And so likewise, it's not that you're not getting at something, you're getting at something, but it's demi reality. Bismarck is a firm that analyzes institutions, from governments to companies, focusing on the causes of societal decay and flourishing. So, what is it measuring? Touching on the meta crisis, the ecology of commmunication, the challenge of holding multiple perspectives in your mind at the same time, and even "who's going to do the dishes?", and much more. And so, I'm saying not engage fully with the culture, but be mindful that you can have junk food for your mind you can have junk food for your body. Exactly. Think on These Things (Paperback) by. 2022 And it means supervening on the traditional research academy, in blurring those boundaries. Is that we have connected intelligence, which is something that goes on with the mind, with a particular instrument that's been used to detect intelligence. It's the kind of [inaudible 00:48:47] Dawson's refrain, of how loading works. And there's something like 7,000 genes that we've identified actually have epigenetic modulation with different forms of exercise. We have these newfangled [inaudible 00:09:18] And some problems have been solved with objectivity and reliability, which were the first big concerns. There's like no conversation I'd rather be in. It's not complicated, it's radically complex. They're totally different things. Busting the demi reality to get to the actual reality of intelligence. Daniel S.: And the lack of trauma and fear [crosstalk 00:42:20]. And so I think there's this complicated kind of cluster of things that make us look at particular types of skill development in particular capacities, from particular lines, that's what we value. He's like a human big brain computer. We outline how our social systems and institutions need to be . So, that maps all the way up and abstractions of that kind? So, that's important. Because you actually think you know what's going on, when you don't. And what might some of the modalities that we start in engaging in look like? The throughline of his interests has to do with ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal. Daniel S.: Exactly. So, this is the first of these dialogues. Thank you, this was a really fun first podcast for us to do, and a fun topic. So, creative problem finding is different than even creative problem-solving, let alone problem-solving that's not creative. Ecosystem is changing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DANIEL SCHMACHTENBERGER Daniel Schmachtenberger is a social philosopher whose central focus is. Then you see other people where they have novel value development across many fields that are obviously inter-informing each other, because of lateral thinking, and because of abstraction that is then finding generalized principles across domains. And that's just I think, part of the picture. So you can be smart in the morning, and not smart at late evening, or vice versa. Which is still a higher, more abstract in that domain. I think extrinsic motivation is part of what it means to be alive. And I think the answer is yes. I've been really intrigued by the meditation research that's coming out of Madison, Wisconsin. How should we think about intelligence? I would love to go in there a little bit. We wouldn't have IQ tests, if we didn't have the factory schools. But, there's something true also about that fear. Zachary Stein: Yeah, no. Researcher Daniel Schmachtenber lays out how COVID-19 is giving us all a crash-course in systemic risk. After graduating from West Point, he served with distinction in the Army and was a triumphant general in the Civil War. But let's take groups like Mensa. And he was like, nope. Please do not message me directly. And if I were to real allocate it, a might make me feel better, but I would actually be a less useful tool. And that's just I think, part of the picture. If interested, you can follow him there. And Fisher would often talk about bringing a structured you know, transferring it over and down. How does that relate to the total picture of what intelligence is? So, freeing your goals from that, transcending but including extrinsic value. Figuring out new things that were in the unknown unknown, requires a different kind of exploration. So yes, I'm not sure we know enough about genetics it to really speculate. We commit to cover sensible issues responsibly through the principles of neutrality. Individualistic thinking is an issue mentioned. Why is that a capacity of the brain? So, if you have a basic income guarantee, kind of integral social safety net, and some of these other social miracles that I've written about, we would look at something like a broad raising of the floor of quote general intelligence just because so much as a result of that. So Zach, thank you for being here today with us. And that's one of my concerns with the quantified-self design, do you know the measurement errors on your tools? You need to actually co-opt the opioid cycle, the dopamine opioid cycle, into these learning these virtuous Cycles, as opposed to things, like for example a video game. He believes that advancing collective intelligence and capacity is fundamental to the integrity of any civilization. And so, I'm very much a fan of blurring some of these distinctions. He further explained how his father taught him about Work, Integrity, Motivation, Capacity, Courage, Power, and more. Cover letters should be no more than 500 words. "If a system of collective intelligence is autopoietic (has self-generating momentum) and maladaptive, it is (eventually) an existential threat." "Vectoring towards omni-win-win means making an omni-win-win choice whenever possible, and when not, making the choice closest to omni-win-win, that increases omni-win-win . Dec 2016 - Jun 20181 year 7 months. But still thinking about growing them. So they would then go to an abstraction level called complex systems. Daniel S.: Wider, intentionally cross-fying. And we're going to have to radically rethink a lot of things. Another reason we don't have an answer to this question is because basic levels, like Maslow level one kind of like physical nutrition, and safe environments, and these things are not really available for many people. And I found some of these deep structures. He mostly investigated that line. I mean, that's a great question. And so, I think some people may be willing to live with a kind of truncated whole set of skills, and a kind of withered limb as it were, in order to have this super strong branch over here holding up something that needs to be held up. On the planet. And I imagine people might have a lot of followup questions regarding assessment and development, and et cetera. In adults were that supposedly doesn't change. There are a number of short blog articles on more personal topics, originally written as facebook notes, also shared here. I mean, that's the million dollar question in a way. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, Privacy Policy To the degree that we are wanting to raise children to fill roles in a predefined society, we of course don't want them to ask. And how should we think about intelligence? Dr. Some of the IP is at Googe. For example, starting a huge army from scratch with a bunch of American farm boys, and you went to figure out who could potentially be a general, like in a very useful question mark to sort that. It's about going wider, and we already discussed this briefly, but I think, is something that people have the freedom to do in a way that never happened before, if some of these other things get sorted out. Which is to say, intelligence is consciousness operating the world. Because that's really one of the hearts of the issues here. But, there's something true also about that fear. And so, some people are gifted at building in mathematical intelligences, which is to say they can move up and down this hierarchy of complexity, and abstraction, they can do that in math really well. And it seems to me like, problem solving within an already existing problem domain, kind of maps to hill climbing. 92008, Copyright I really like Steven Jay Gould's great work, called the mismeasure of man. It's touching some things, it's what Roy Bhaskar, the great meta theorist, the great philosopher, the late great, he called it a demi reality, which is like, it's getting on something real, but it's a small version of what's real. I mean, that's a great question. Show Notes0:00 Intro3:44 The difference between intelligence and IQ scores10:21 What IQ scores measure14:12 Generalized Intelligence16:26 The I the We and the it21:06 Does IQ Map to Success in Some Areas?23:49 Problem Solving vs. And, the branches inter-tangle at the higher levels. Like, we're trying to produce this thing, so we're just growing hybridized GM wheat fields and our mind. But then you can be focused on very different topics, and you might say that some topics, obviously whether the information is accurate or not and if it's factual information kind of matters. There's a whole cluster of domains that's socio-ethical. Daniel S.: Do you think it's a worthwhile concept amongst the multiple lines of intelligence two separate ones that seem more generally abstract from more embodied? It doesn't have a fixed blueprint. Precisely. There are a few kind of neural hacking methods that have some early indicators that they elevate IQ. Updated Mathematics, Sciences, Etc. As a boy, the 18th president (1869-1877) was mocked as "Useless" by his classmates and didn't fit in; he seemed uninterested in school. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'biographyhost_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_7',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-biographyhost_com-medrectangle-4-0'); Also Read About -Albert Lin - Bio, Married, Bible, Expeditions & Lose His Leg. Zachary Stein: Well, and this is where it gets interesting, because the very next thing I was about to say that, you also need to learn about learning. But there are things that shorten our attention span by design, and so we need to avoid these things, because they teach us that that's how information works, or that's how learning is. The throughline of his interests has to do with ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal. Investigated the emergence of things like the idea of causality. It's a bookmark. This is kind of a far transfer is the word, but I remember David Lynch, the great film director, he went to do psychotherapy, and he was like, you know, if I do this will my art suffer? Zachary Stein: Definitely. It's about bringing a kind of coherence to the skill development, so you don't have this fractured weird profile of skills but rather skills that are coherently related to one another. It's so hard to tell. Developed a coherent set of Data Principles to influence understanding of data. "Anything you can write a process for, no human wants to spend their whole life doing.". I really appreciated this conversation with Coleman and found his perspective to be earnest and seeking to think clearly and fairly about important and often | 10 comments on LinkedIn Zachary Stein: Yeah, I mean, I think the people at the edges of those fields don't even really think about what the disciplinary boundaries are, or ought to be. ins.style.display='block';ins.style.minWidth=container.attributes.ezaw.value+'px';ins.style.width='100%';ins.style.height=container.attributes.ezah.value+'px';container.appendChild(ins);(adsbygoogle=window.adsbygoogle||[]).push({});window.ezoSTPixelAdd(slotId,'stat_source_id',44);window.ezoSTPixelAdd(slotId,'adsensetype',1);var lo=new MutationObserver(window.ezaslEvent);lo.observe(document.getElementById(slotId+'-asloaded'),{attributes:true}); Daniel Schmachtenberger is the founding member of The Consilience Project. Nur etwa 25% aller Kinder, die mit ihren Eltern eine Fachberatungsstelle aufsuchen, . And so, it's interesting. Dive in. 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